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Laura Mazzotta: Welcome back to episode 4 of the freedom frequency. Anna and I are here to chat about what, Anna this was. All you. So let's go roll.
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Ana Jones: So. I was telling Laura that I've been really thinking a lot about just the concept that we have around what is success and what is failure, and I think that the at least for me, what the way that I've been viewing success and the way that I've been viewing failure hasn't really been serving me. It's just a lot of fucking pressure. It's a great way to put myself down.
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Ana Jones: If I don't, you know, achieve whatever X amount of money, because it's all. Also, there's always like the money is kind of like the the fuel, right? Like we make it like we make it the fuel. We make it the goal. We make it the intention. We make it everything. So I feel like we can get a little lost on the way, and there's no room for like excitement and creativity and flow, and really all that
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Ana Jones: sources asking us to bring into existence. So we can start dabbling a little bit. So I don't just vomit all of this stuff.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, taking a point at a time, because you have several. Yeah, I thank you for this topic, because it's funny. This is coming up. When I think you just read my post yesterday that I put up about the spiritual service which is like, activate your abundant assignment, and I didn't realize that
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Laura Mazzotta: that this is the energy that was coming in. But obviously, that's what is arising right now. So I think it's really timely that we're talking about this, because
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Laura Mazzotta: it's about when we talk about activating an abundant assignment with what you're just saying. It's like none of this. None of this success is, is ours right like none of it belongs to us, and we're meant to just kind of be in motion with what's being delivered through us, and serve and allow ourselves to feel good about that, not just because we're receiving as we serve, but because
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Laura Mazzotta: it's extending source energy. We're witnessing this expansion around us as we do this, and it's it's being able to feel that sensation of
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Laura Mazzotta: abundance like you said. And I know, like you just gave the example about the the tie to money, the tether to money. I know that
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Laura Mazzotta: whether I'm making money right now, or whether I'm making money next week or next month.
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Laura Mazzotta: I know that there's and I witness, and I feel the immense movement of energy within my field, because I am always tapping into source, and I am always receiving that invitation, and I am always extending it, and that movement is abundance in motion within my field, and it always arrives to me in physical form, in whatever form.
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Laura Mazzotta: right that might be, money that might be love that might be spaciousness.
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Ana Jones: You know, they're just.
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Ana Jones: I feel like
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Ana Jones: I I have all the images and all the thoughts in my head. I just haven't really been able to like translate it, because I literally just got off a call with a client. And we did a soul reading, and a lot of the things that I feel and see and connect with. They. I just I can't.
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Ana Jones: I don't have the intelligence. I don't have the, you know, like the
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Ana Jones: I don't know. I don't even know what how you call it, but there's just some things that you can't really explain.
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Ana Jones: you know. So for those of you who are listening to this. And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about like I feel like when I was at a point in my life where I couldn't see beyond. Like, I need to make X amount of money I need to create. You know, this amount of projects, these I need to have X amount of clients I need to have like it. We want to make everything like so like numbers and so tangible, you know, revolve around that concept that it's really like.
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Ana Jones: if we if we really play that small like.
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Ana Jones: we're not even living life to like the 1%
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Ana Jones: like that is just, you know, it's just like it's such a. It's it's it's a re. It's a it's a great play. It's a great way to play small.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, it's like narrow focus, like, you're like pigeonholing yourself. You're like micromanaging it based on well, this is how I need to like crunch my numbers to bring this in. And it's like you're looking here, and I know that that can make
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Laura Mazzotta: concrete sense. And that's what we're taught, and I get that.
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Laura Mazzotta: But I love that you were saying like, if you're at that place, because I've been at that place, too, where I was like counting the number of clients I had like back when I was a traditional therapist, counting number of clients I had, and how much money I was bringing, and how many more clients I needed to get to this and to
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Laura Mazzotta: it was dizzying, and it was obsessive and compulsive, you know, because it's out of control. It was out of like a I need to to prove my success to myself most importantly right, because success was so tied to how smart I was and how many clients I had, and how much money I was making, and I think that for me when I 1st started to break out of that, just from a very concrete stepwise space. It was
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Laura Mazzotta: just increasing a little bit more spaciousness in my life, and that was like
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Laura Mazzotta: a minute, a day, or like 5 min a day, or 10 min a day, and it was wild. How much I would notice that then more would open like double would open right, and and just start to play with like those little factors.
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Laura Mazzotta: And it's amazing how much can open and and let like, Anna said, let yourself get excited
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Laura Mazzotta: like at the same time that you're crunching numbers. We're not telling you to get rid of that yet, but it's like, you know, cause that will automatically fall away when it's no longer necessary. But it's like what
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Laura Mazzotta: what gets you excited like? Just let yourself be excited.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: Even if you think it's a fantasy in your head.
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Ana Jones: yeah, and I, really, you know, it's it's interesting because it feels like it, it was such a long time ago. But it was actually not such a long time ago that I was there. You know that I was really worried about like Oh, my gosh! What about this? What about that like I have that and that. And it's just like
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Ana Jones: I have realized that the more I come into this I confront this reality that I have just like unshakable faith
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Ana Jones: in God, in myself, in the life, in just the life that contains me.
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Ana Jones: that I am able to move through this experience and not have to worry about minute things. And and I'm speaking for those of us who have a house who have water, who have food, who have clothes like right like.
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Laura Mazzotta: Correct.
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Ana Jones: We have access to Internet, like, we have our basics like, though, that's like the basic thing, the basic things that you need nowadays, right. And so, if you have all of these things right.
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Ana Jones: there is this possibility for you to, as Laura says, regulate your nervous system like 1 min, 1 min a day.
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Ana Jones: It's like, I think sometimes you just really get overwhelmed because there's so much out there, right we have. We live in an era where it's like fucking like like blasting information at you. You need to do this. These are the 5 things. These are the 3 things all this bullshit. But it's just like I wish somebody would have told me sooner, like the more inward you go.
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Ana Jones: Better it is for you and for everyone around you, including your clients, including the people that you buy coffee from, including, like every person that you come across, even animals, even like everything, everything that you're creating. And so I really think that there is a lot more to this right. And you know, like I've shared with you like I I have had moments of resistance where I'm like. I don't want to go inward. I don't want to meditate. I don't want to sit down. I don't want to, and it's just
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Ana Jones: if there's no, if you're not creating that space.
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Ana Jones: then you're telling life like I don't have any space to receive what it is that you want to give me, therefore I'm not available for it.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah. And you know what I think. That's a good point, too. Because.
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Ana Jones: What that brings up is this concept of bypassing what you already do know, what you already have felt, even if you're not somebody who.
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Laura Mazzotta: Decides to go deeply inward, and tries a little bit here and there, but
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Laura Mazzotta: I promise you your body is still giving you signals. I promise you your excitement, and your heart is still jumping once every 6 months, like, I promise you, something is happening within your body like there is movement happening, and and we just bypass it because it's like, Nope, I got to get this shit done because I got to do that. You know what I mean, and like I get it, I've so so been there.
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Laura Mazzotta: And I'm and like you said it. It doesn't serve anybody, because the fact is, it's like giving yourself even a moment of saying you know what
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Laura Mazzotta: I'm going to pause here for 30 seconds and just feel this excitement. Not necessarily what this excitement is about not necessarily whether it's going to happen, but just feel it.
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Laura Mazzotta: You know it's you are. You are choosing where you are placing your focus and your energy, instead of blocking it out right and like just and just saying, like I am dialed in to a grind.
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Ana Jones: Yes. Oh, my God, yes.
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Ana Jones: yeah, you I mean so many things that you were saying there. And and and it's really really interesting, because
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Ana Jones: I was as you were speaking, I was thinking.
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Ana Jones: how many accounts are there out there where we're just seeing like the good side.
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Ana Jones: Right? We're just. And I'm saying I have like air quotes going on for those of you that aren't watching and are just listening. We're just seeing the good side, and I saw a post from the sky that said, There are a lot of fake.
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Ana Jones: He didn't say influencers, but he was like he was talking particularly about men like there's a lot of fake spiritual Bros out there that are like saying all this shit have amazing copywriters, amazing marketing team. And then you meet them. And you're like
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Ana Jones: this, is it?
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Ana Jones: You know, like like this, is it? And it's so interesting because once you start to practice
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Ana Jones: this spaciousness, this 1 min a day type of thing like pause, drop everything that you're doing, and just really look at the fucking ceiling and just do nothing. Just be just exist. That is enough to signal your body that you are available for some sort of intuitive connection.
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Ana Jones: And the way that I'm going to link this here promise that story wasn't in vain was you are going to be able to detect, even if it's through social media, all of those fake spiritual Bros.
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Ana Jones: And this helps you. I feel like this comes with like
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Ana Jones: also deepening your responsibility of freedom.
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Ana Jones: because when you start making choices from your intuition, you are making choices that are actually going to serve you, to have a much more expansive responsibility. What does this mean that you can't fucking outsource your responsibility to someone else and be like that person made me do it. I thought you were my Guru. I thought that no man, I can't tell you how to do it. I can't tell you what like. I can give you some clues, and I can give you some hints, and I can guide you right like general guidance, but it's like
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Ana Jones: what it feels like and what it looks like to you.
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Ana Jones: It's not the same at what it feels like and what it looks like to me.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah. And that's why that presence with yourself. Right? That's that's really what it is. It's just presence with
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Laura Mazzotta: source, your higher power with yourself.
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Ana Jones: Okay.
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Laura Mazzotta: In your space like just that, is it? It gives you so much data. And it's not data that you necessarily get in your head that your mind knows and understands right. But it is. It is data that you will see pays itself forward, because then you're going to get signals that you maybe didn't notice before. You're going to get signals that are inviting you into something a little bit wider. And
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Laura Mazzotta: it's it's not that doing the grind doesn't work, it does work. You will access abundance that way.
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Laura Mazzotta: But are you going to sacrifice other things?
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Laura Mazzotta: And are you going to
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Laura Mazzotta: shut out wider and more expansive and lighter and more free opportunities. It's not that you can't access it, and yes, money does offer us the sensation of freedom and the expansion that we desire on a tangible on a tangible plane here. But
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Laura Mazzotta: but it's
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Laura Mazzotta: recognizing that when you are grateful, and if you're listening to this, we know you're somebody who practices gratitude like if you are grateful for what you have and the abundance that already exists in your life, that's naturally going to be, get more and and show you that more is arriving to you right expanding possibility. And like, when Anna was talking about with his discernment with other people. It's like.
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Laura Mazzotta: it's just that feeling that you come to in your body, that knowing that sharp knowing of like
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Laura Mazzotta: and it's not a is this person wrong. Is this person off? It's
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Laura Mazzotta: does this person feel in resonance with what I feel like? And I can answer that because I now know what I feel like
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Laura Mazzotta: right. I know what I feel like, because I've chosen to be present with that, and they can do their thing, and they can have all their accolades, and that can be great, and it can be very successful for them. But what feels like success for you and that for me. I know I defined years ago was intimacy and spaciousness. Those are my 2 definitions of success, intimacy, and spaciousness.
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Laura Mazzotta: And it's
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Laura Mazzotta: it's it was such a helpful guidepost to kind of bring me back to when my mind would wander to like. How many clients do I have? How much money am I bringing, you know.
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Laura Mazzotta: and realizing.
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Laura Mazzotta: But that's no, that's that's the old narrative. That's the old condition, and that's what people have told me. Success is, that's what I was told it is. But what does it feel like in my body? Because the fact is like we talked about earlier, like when we talk about your abundant assignment, we talk about activating what you're meant for.
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Laura Mazzotta: It's what you're meant to receive, based in this, based on what your soul's chosen for this lifetime.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right? It's what you're meant to receive. It doesn't belong to you. None of this belongs to you.
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Laura Mazzotta: We're riding this wave, man, and we're supposed to have fun.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: Does any of that make sense.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, yeah, it did. It did. Yeah, no, no, I. It did make sense, because I literally was just talking about that with the client, and it was just like like the messages that were coming through to her. Her was just like, just be, and I'm like, Oh, my God! That is the most annoying thing to receive right? Because you're like what the fuck, what is the translation right like in a world where we are constantly being told what to do. Just be feels like
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Ana Jones: dropping like having some helicopter drop us off in the middle of the desert. And we're like, just be what the fuck. Does that mean? So I think it. It really is about just like having this experience of
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Ana Jones: being you know, the examples that were brought up for her were like, go to
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Ana Jones: a a water like whatever body of water that you have close by and like, take your shoes off, put your feet in the water, and like
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Ana Jones: is where it is. That is your connection to source. Go to the park, take off your shoes, walk on the grass. It was very like elemental, you know, like very like earthy stuff, you know, just like, get on the grass.
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Ana Jones: Stop for a moment, and if you feel the wind like just kind of breeze through your face. Hear the whispers like, it's really that that intimacy that you're talking about like life wants to get intimate with you
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Ana Jones: like wants to make love with you like wants to create through you like wants to all do all these things. But like, do you want to do that. Are you available for what you say that you want to be available for? Because otherwise it's it's just. It's just like there's no power. Exactly. There's no power behind those words. There's just like, Oh, I saw it in a quote, and I said it, and I'm just repeating it, and I'm parroting, you know, whatever I saw on a quote, or whatever I heard someone say, but it's like.
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Ana Jones: dig a little bit deeper and find a little bit more meaning because there's so many people out there and celebrities included that are like, Yeah, I have money, but I'm fucking miserable.
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Ana Jones: That doesn't like that doesn't mean anything to me, and it's it's only when you've gotten to that point right that you're like fuck. This is really sad because I have a shit ton of money, but I'm alone, and I'm not happy, and I don't feel fulfilled, and I don't feel, whatever it is that they're looking for now. So I really do agree that this is just something like
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Ana Jones: that. It. This is like a self exploration journey. It's not like a 1 and done because your definition of success will probably become a lot more. Narrowed down.
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Laura Mazzotta: And simplified.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, exactly. I mean, success might be like, you know, having a farmhouse middle of nowhere, where you wake up in the morning to see the sunrise, and you're on your rocking chair, having your cup of coffee like that sounds fucking amazing to me.
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Ana Jones: you know, like it's and it's like, what? What is your what is your definition of success?
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah. And and we're we're here to feel the sensation of
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Laura Mazzotta: the wind and the water like you were talking about.
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Laura Mazzotta: We're we're meant to feel that intimacy with sensation
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Laura Mazzotta: with our bodies, and to let it invite us into like a taste of
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Laura Mazzotta: the enormity of what's available to us.
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Laura Mazzotta: You know it's it's so delicious. And I love that you use the word fulfillment. And I think that's where we can close this today because it really brings us full circle around
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Laura Mazzotta: like that's really what success is. Right. It's it's deep, deep
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Laura Mazzotta: fulfillment. And I can honestly tell you that I live an incredibly fulfilling rich, spacious, delicious life, and
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Laura Mazzotta: even in all of that, the deepest fulfillment that I receive is with my own energy.
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Laura Mazzotta: with my connection and relationship with spirit.
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Laura Mazzotta: because it doesn't mean that I'm not fulfilled or less fulfilled in my life than that. It means that there is so much more available with the Infinite. And when you take that time to be present.
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Laura Mazzotta: and you allow all of you to come forward, which includes your soul, which includes spirit
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Laura Mazzotta: right when you allow all of you to come forward, you get to actually feel
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Laura Mazzotta: that fulfillment. And that's what Anna's talking about with
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Laura Mazzotta: going inward, and how much that serves you and changes this definition of your success
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Laura Mazzotta: for people around you as you exhibit it and live it.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: Beautiful.
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Ana Jones: I really think that we are the, you know, like, if you, if you want to inspire someone, truly start living life on your own terms.
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Ana Jones: Truly, I really do believe that.
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Laura Mazzotta: That's what that means. Yes.
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Laura Mazzotta: beautiful, all right. Thank you, friend, for being here. Thank you. Everyone for listening and receiving us today, and we will see you on episode 5 bye, for now.
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Ana Jones: Bye.