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Laura Mazzotta: Welcome back to episode 4 of soul talk. Today we are going to be talking about creation, and we're diving right in with Jenna Greengold, taking the floor because she got some downloads this morning that are going to guide us in this experience. So it's all you Babe.
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Jenna Greengold: Okay.
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Jenna Greengold: okay. So this morning, when I was driving, I was just had this whole definition of creation drop in.
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Jenna Greengold: and the 1st thing that came forward was that creation is
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Jenna Greengold: energetic attunement to service and to desire
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Jenna Greengold: like at its at its core. That's what it is, and from the quantum sense. You know
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Jenna Greengold: everything that already exists energetically and in general it already everything already exists right
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Jenna Greengold: like there's nothing that actually needs to be. Quote unquote, created from a traditional like human understanding.
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Jenna Greengold: like painting or or drawing like. Nothing needs to be done with your hands. Nothing needs you don't need to do anything.
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Jenna Greengold: It all already exists, and coupling that from like
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Jenna Greengold: a scientific sense, you know, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It already is right.
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Jenna Greengold: So again, there's nothing that we need to do. It's just a matter of us attuning to the frequency
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Jenna Greengold: of what we desire or what or how we serve both. It's the same thing, because when our desire is so, let it is service.
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Jenna Greengold: So yeah, the the main thing there was just that creation is the attunement.
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Jenna Greengold: it's the attunement, and then you can bring that into density by aligning with the frequency of it.
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Jenna Greengold: I don't know. What do you think.
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Laura Mazzotta: Nino.
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Ninoshka Perez: Hmm!
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Ninoshka Perez: You know I will.
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Ninoshka Perez: This is so good, because what I was getting
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Ninoshka Perez: just moments before this is, there's nothing to create.
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Ninoshka Perez: And for me, what that's become is there's no creation. There's only birth thing, right that it already exists.
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Ninoshka Perez: We're just bringing it like you said we're bringing it into density. That's that birthing what we have quote unquote, called
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Ninoshka Perez: manifestation, creation making
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Ninoshka Perez: But oh, I so love soul led desire equals service.
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Ninoshka Perez: They're the same thing. So all of
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Ninoshka Perez: creation, in the sense of the definition you've given
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Ninoshka Perez: is also just aligning with that
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Ninoshka Perez: aligning with the way that source desires for us to create service.
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Ninoshka Perez: and the flavor and the texture
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Ninoshka Perez: is what we get to add to what already exists.
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Ninoshka Perez: based off of our unique frequency in this unique moment in time. And all of the
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Ninoshka Perez: experiences we have inform what that creation looks like. Inform here in the 3D.
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Ninoshka Perez: But the energetic base of it doesn't need creation anymore which I love.
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Ninoshka Perez: Laura.
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Ninoshka Perez: What do you want to add to this.
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Laura Mazzotta: I'm feeling a
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Laura Mazzotta: it feels like as as you guys are describing this, I'm just being present with, like the sensations and the energy that's coming alive around like the conscious content and conversation.
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Laura Mazzotta: And to me it feels like I am a filter.
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Laura Mazzotta: So it's like I choose
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Laura Mazzotta: the creation, the the creation of something within this. The density of the 3D is activated when I decide to attune
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Laura Mazzotta: and when I decide to attune, I'm simply in this receptive space right?
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Laura Mazzotta: And the divine
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Laura Mazzotta: expresses through me. So it's like we talk about Sola. Desire equals service, a hundred percent, because that desire leads me to choose attunement.
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Laura Mazzotta: and in that choice of attunement
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Laura Mazzotta: I'm then deciding to be in receptivity, and as I receive
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Laura Mazzotta: it, just kept coming forward as as it's an creation is simply an expression.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right? It's just an expression. And so I'm allowing the expression of source energy through me as a filter. And so what comes through the pores of myself like you, said Nino, is going to feel and look differently.
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Laura Mazzotta: depending on my texture. So I'm just feeling it in terms of like this, this energetic visualization. And and I think this is being invited forward now, just so that people can can come into that in a meditative way right, and recognize, like what that looks like when we're putting it into a stepwise space like because
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Laura Mazzotta: it it's like you and I were talking, Nino, before we started that surrender to source energy, receptivity of source energy. Is not this passive experience right? I am choosing to create here? I'm not just letting things flow. And being like, Oh, okay, hello! And let it just pass through me like I am deciding to attune, because when I decide to attune.
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Laura Mazzotta: I refine the I refine the concentration of that. I'm not just kind of like receiving willy-nilly. I'm saying, like, Okay.
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Laura Mazzotta: I'm actually choosing to come into
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Laura Mazzotta: into like willing relationship is the free will part because we are human beings. I'm coming into to willing relationship with this
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Laura Mazzotta: and recognizing
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Laura Mazzotta: the the 3D creation as this expression of source through my filter. Okay, does that make any sense.
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Jenna Greengold: Yes, yes, it does. I will be a voice. Yes, it does.
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Jenna Greengold: You're muted. You're muted. What are you saying?
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Laura Mazzotta: I said, yes, the people don't like the pauses. Be a voice.
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Jenna Greengold: Yeah, I think it's interesting, you know, just as like
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Jenna Greengold: a random anecdote here, because it kind of goes with what you were saying with flow, and it's not just necessarily flow. It's still active, choice.
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Jenna Greengold: I mean active choice into flow. You know what I mean?
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Jenna Greengold: so like on Saturday I was really upset, and I was thinking about different types of service, and I was thinking about.
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Jenna Greengold: I was so in my mind about how I want to serve in like different ways. And it kind of goes to what we were talking about in like the prior video that we did on service. So it was kind of like that. But I got kind of sticky in my head right
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Jenna Greengold: thinking about service, and and how I wanted it to flow, because it was felt like I was in my head like, is this my add, when I'm just like thinking of like 10,000 different things, and how I want to do it.
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Jenna Greengold: and how I'm receiving it from source right?
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Jenna Greengold: And then it's like.
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Jenna Greengold: so I'm driving, and I'm on the highway, and you know how you can kind of get very like autopilot-y when you're driving. So I was. I was in that zone, and this car comes up behind me, and it's and it pulled me out of it like that, because it came up like close, and it came around me, and as it comes around me all the the license plate on it was, I create
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Jenna Greengold: like, that was the license. But I just like busted out. I'm like, okay, like.
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Jenna Greengold: I was like, all right? Yeah, okay.
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Jenna Greengold: And it was just like heard loud and clear. Heard you. And it's very much just like
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Jenna Greengold: just flow into it. Stop trying to put it into a very specific direction, just receive it and create.
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Laura Mazzotta: So I want to ask you, Jenna, before we close up on that like, what do you do when you receive
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Laura Mazzotta: this energy from source, and it feels very add, and all over the place, because I think that is a very important piece with with how we receive, like the way that I described it was more energetic. But yes, it can. It can activate the nervous system, and it can make the mind, you know, come up with all these ideas. So so what have you found to be supportive in kind of honing creation?
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Jenna Greengold: I think a lot of the time it's
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Jenna Greengold: a sometimes I'll do something concrete with it, like, just write it all down, and then I'll fill into the frequency
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Jenna Greengold: and feel where I am most led.
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Jenna Greengold: Feel where, and not try and make it mean anything.
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Jenna Greengold: But it's very much just feeling into the frequency of it. And again at that point, then you're much more out of your head, and you're in attunement and alignment with what you're wanting to receive, and how you're wanting to serve.
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Jenna Greengold: So it then becomes more pure and less
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Jenna Greengold: less nervous. As to me at that point.
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Ninoshka Perez: I have something I want to add before we close this out completely.
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Ninoshka Perez: What kept coming to me was chaos of creation.
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Ninoshka Perez: If you ever see, like these
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Ninoshka Perez: beautiful artists, chefs? You know all of this.
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Ninoshka Perez: There is chaos in the midst of creativity. It is that surplus of thought, that surplus of
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Ninoshka Perez: inspiration, and we just have to grab one thread
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Ninoshka Perez: and run with it and allow everything else to just come. Because
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Ninoshka Perez: when we think about everything is already created. Everything is already in existence. There's no way to
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Ninoshka Perez: singularly pull out one
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Ninoshka Perez: concrete form until you let it all come. Kind of come in and filter, and be raptured
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Ninoshka Perez: by the frequency of all that exists.
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Ninoshka Perez: and then, when we start filtering it through, you know, writing it down concretely, saying, Oh, this is where I feel most led to express this, then it all kind of comes into formation right? It's like that waterfall that you know. You have those rapids that fall into the most perfect, beautiful form of this waterfall.
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Ninoshka Perez: but it started with chaos. It started looking like dangerous, unkept
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Ninoshka Perez: Adhd, like right. And that nervous system is just
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Ninoshka Perez: waves of energy that are percolating through all of us, right? And so just
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Ninoshka Perez: allowing that to happen and not make it mean something is when we get out of our head of hmm. The body feels all of this energy. The body wants to do something with all of this energy. But can I take my mind
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Ninoshka Perez: and place it aside for a moment to just let myself be consumed by creative force
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Ninoshka Perez: and then go forward right. We don't have to make it
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Ninoshka Perez: always nervous system regulation. Sometimes it's good for the body to feel this state of
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Ninoshka Perez: chaos inside of it, where the cells are just bouncing around because that's just pure frequency.
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Ninoshka Perez: And can we embrace it? Can we
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Ninoshka Perez: love it for what it is
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Ninoshka Perez: and move with it? The body knows what to do with it. It's the mind that we have to say, Hey, it's okay. We can love this. And we could hate this.
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Ninoshka Perez: But it's gonna create something so beautiful that let's feel it and allow the body to filter it.
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Ninoshka Perez: That's all I have.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, I really love what you're saying. There's a couple of things that came forward as you were talking.
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Laura Mazzotta: I love that you brought up this concept of chaos of creation and and the discomfort that can exist within that right, because that's an attunement in itself from source to us, like attuning us to like we can choose to attune. It's like, okay. Well, you said you'd receive the attunement. But now you're freaking out and figuring out what the hell you're supposed to do with all this right. And it's like, actually, it's what you said, Nino, like we know what to do with it, and what came forward as you were talking about this like this surplus of inspiration right? And grabbing one thread.
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Laura Mazzotta: It's like to me.
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Laura Mazzotta: Can that feel fun?
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Laura Mazzotta: Because what's happening there is when we receive this surplus of inspiration. Like you said, everything already exists
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Laura Mazzotta: like, it's already in existence.
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Laura Mazzotta: So if I'm receiving all this.
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Laura Mazzotta: I'm actually, it's like being in the tunnel in the Willy Wonka chocolate factory when he goes on the river, and he goes through the boat, and there's like all those images going on in the tunnel, and it's like I get to see Holy shit I get to. I'm being given a I am a witness on the wall of
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Laura Mazzotta: consciousness. Because all of this exists, all of this is being created. All of this has already been created. All of this is coming into creation somewhere on this planet that is so fucking cool like that is really fucking fun.
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Laura Mazzotta: And so when I get to see that it's like, oh, yes, let me let me watch all of these images on the wall like I'm going through the Willy Wonka tunnel. And even in that tunnel there was fear there, right there was fear there, because that's the nervous system being like holy shit. Oh, my God! These are the nervous system waves that you were talking about Nino right? And not making them mean anything but being like. Thank you. Source for like showing me the kaleidoscope of everything that's out there.
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Laura Mazzotta: And it's like I'm giving you like you said that energy is pure.
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Laura Mazzotta: I am giving you the purity of this energy that's that's being created everywhere within universal consciousness. You get to witness it without overwhelm, but with curiosity and like wonder and like, Wow! Look at everything that exists.
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Laura Mazzotta: Look at everything, and then you're able to say, like.
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Laura Mazzotta: like Jenna was saying, like being in presence and like, Okay.
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Laura Mazzotta: now, I'm feeling into sensation of this.
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Laura Mazzotta: Where is my unique role meant to fit within this sea of creation
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Laura Mazzotta: right and and the body does know.
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Laura Mazzotta: And so, when we allow ourselves to witness
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Laura Mazzotta: and be in presence of all of this chaos
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Laura Mazzotta: we're letting it settle. We're like
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Laura Mazzotta: enjoying and appreciating what's being shown to us, and we enjoy and appreciate what's being shown to us.
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Laura Mazzotta: Then it settles faster.
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Laura Mazzotta: So that's what came forward for me.
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Jenna Greengold: Can you do me a favor and write down witness on the wall of consciousness? Because, Jesus Christ.
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Jenna Greengold: right? Yeah, just go ahead and write that down for yourself. Thanks.
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Laura Mazzotta: Tell me.
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Jenna Greengold: I agree with you.
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Laura Mazzotta: To you, Jenna. Tell me what that.
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Jenna Greengold: I just it made me very tingly, and I.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right. I like the tingly. I want more than that.
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Jenna Greengold: No, I can't say so. I really like that, because it allows you to to see that it's all
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Jenna Greengold: not just already created, and all already there, every feeling, every thought, every action, every idea, everything has already been in existence. But it also allows you to know that we are all the same. We are all one, and we can all already tap into it ourselves.
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Jenna Greengold: Anybody can, at any given time.
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Laura Mazzotta: And it brings us together more. It makes us more collaborative. It's more of that new Earth frequency, that oneness, frequency of like. Oh, my gosh! This is so fun, like all of these people over here are doing this, and they're doing that. And it's like, Oh, what do I get to do. What do I get to do? Right? So it's coming from a place of more
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Laura Mazzotta: excitement and eagerness and play and like Oh, my gosh, yay, I know I've been invited to the party, too. Right. Am I going to make balloon animals, or am I going to decorate the cake? And so I think that's what's cool is like being able to look at that surprise around the next corner of Like what is God showing me like? What a source showing me as to like where I get to contribute to this party.
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Laura Mazzotta: Nina, what's coming up, or Jenna? Do you have something.
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Jenna Greengold: No, Nino, go! I see it on your face.
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Ninoshka Perez: Yeah, thanks. I was just getting imagery of
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Ninoshka Perez: a festival or a craft fair
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Ninoshka Perez: where you have all of these different tables. Everyone has their niche. Everyone has the one thing that they've created, and sometimes, you see.
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Ninoshka Perez: duplication of the same thing. And when you go table to table and you're like, Oh, they're making wreaths, and these are making wreath, but they look so different and like how fun it is to see each of our unique spin and filter and texture of what we do with that same energy. Right? Because the energy
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Ninoshka Perez: is the same.
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Ninoshka Perez: Our filter is the only difference in how it comes into form.
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Ninoshka Perez: and if you go into like this bird's eye view of this fair festival, and you see all of the things that you think don't go together.
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Ninoshka Perez: but when you walk through it it's like.
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Ninoshka Perez: Oh, my gosh! It's so fun! I get to experience it all.
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Ninoshka Perez: Oh, my gosh! It's so fun. This look like it shouldn't go together. But somehow it works. That's our humanity, that's our spiritual nature. That's
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Ninoshka Perez: creation itself. That's why like the things that you just think, don't go together
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Ninoshka Perez: when you see it, together with somebody's specific lens of creation.
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Ninoshka Perez: Oh, it becomes so beautiful like, who would think
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Ninoshka Perez: graffiti like in certain areas. It looks hideous, right? You think like there's a certain group of people who think this is hideous. There's another group of people who are like. No, this is my expression, and because it's my expression of my pain and my suffering, it is beautiful.
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Ninoshka Perez: and then it's become a whole art. People want to see graffiti artists. People pay graffiti artists to put a mural in the middle of town where, before it was taboo to even see it on a bus
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Ninoshka Perez: right. So
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Ninoshka Perez: when creation is so pure, and when we look at creation purely and from a lens of excitement and a lens of acceptance, for what is?
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Ninoshka Perez: Can we just let it settle
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Ninoshka Perez: and permeate our being, and from that be like, oh, this is what creation is!
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Ninoshka Perez: It was never meant to be judged, it was never meant to be forced.
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Ninoshka Perez: It is pure expression, and because it is expression, it is beautiful and good.
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Jenna Greengold: I think it's also having the discernment to choose it right.
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Jenna Greengold: It's just making me think of like like
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Jenna Greengold: inventors, and like getting downloads and stuff, and like how you're saying they're like, Oh, I wish I had invented that like
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Jenna Greengold: I'd be rich, or I wish I had invented that, because that's really freaking cool. And it's like, I think, that we've all
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Jenna Greengold: or more than one person receives the same download. It's just who decides to take action on it, and who decides to create it? Who decides to to do that? Who decides to follow it.
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Jenna Greengold: And that's what that's making me think of. It's like seeing the beauty in the download that you receive and and following it again, attuning to the frequency of it, seeing the beauty of it and saying, Okay, I'm going to be led here.
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Laura Mazzotta: And that's bringing forward for me that once you
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Laura Mazzotta: there's not always comfort in what you're creating, and we're not just talking about the discomfort we talked about with the nervous system and the mind, but also the creation itself might not feel comfortable.
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Laura Mazzotta: The creation itself might be the creation of something that you're like.
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Laura Mazzotta: you know, like not. Really. It's you're not savoring it a ton.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right. You're not savoring it a ton. Your your ego ego preference is kind of like.
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Laura Mazzotta: I don't really know. And and those are the times when we doubt our discernment
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Laura Mazzotta: And we're like, Hmm. Was I? Is this really was I misled, or we're never misled? Right? But did I did I receive that wrong?
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Laura Mazzotta: And so it's being able to continue to continue to be in the sensation with the divine, that attunement to creation that you were talking about Jenna right? Staying in connection with that during the creation process, knowing and having that clarity within the creation process, without attachment to
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Laura Mazzotta: even the process of its unfolding. Because are we meant to be an appreciation and an enjoyment of the process of creation? Yes, we are. But I want to be real here, too. And the reality is is sometimes we are, we are creating and it. And the process doesn't feel like we thought it should feel or or it doesn't feel as enjoyable.
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Laura Mazzotta: And you can say, Well, that's the, you know, means to an end kind of thing. Well, I'm going to do this because it's a means to an end. But that's not what I'm talking about, because that's very cognitive, and that's very attached to the outcome of what you're creating. It's more like I am willing to be present in the process of the clarity that comes from my attunement with the divine, regardless of what it feels like within my delivery now, because I know it as truth.
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Laura Mazzotta: How does that land, Nino? What's coming up for you?
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Ninoshka Perez: Yeah, I had so much come through. I just look back at
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Ninoshka Perez: truth from just the natural seasons that we get to witness.
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Ninoshka Perez: You know every every turn of the season and part of the creation that brings us into spring, which we're very close to, is having gone through fall and winter this
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Ninoshka Perez: season, when we see things coming to an end, and crumpling and dying right, and sometimes we can be scared of that death. Sometimes we can have a distaste for it.
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Ninoshka Perez: but without that very integral process of creation we don't leave room
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Ninoshka Perez: for more. We don't leave room for refinement, and for all that's to come.
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Ninoshka Perez: And so it's like having
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Ninoshka Perez: like I don't know how many times you guys have brought in fruit into the house, and you're like fully intentional of I'm bringing it in. I'm gonna eat this by this time, and you keep on waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and then it rots, and you're like, Oh, I let it rot, and it just grosses you out. And you're like, why did I do that, and you want to like shame yourself for doing it. But
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Ninoshka Perez: it's part of the process.
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Ninoshka Perez: Everything that is created eventually has to go through its season of ripeness
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Ninoshka Perez: to rotting to decay, and then it just feeds because I could throw it out in the trash and say, Oh, it was no good, or I can toss it outside and let it be taken up by earth.
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Ninoshka Perez: and let it be used and catalyzed, and feed the earth so how many times with just our own creative process, like
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Ninoshka Perez: I like to draw.
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Ninoshka Perez: And sometimes the drawings don't come out the way I want it.
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Ninoshka Perez: and there's iterations of it, and
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Ninoshka Perez: either IA can get mad and just toss them all in the trash, or can keep the revisions and the iterations in my folder, and say, Oh, look at the progress I've made! Look at how these mistakes, these
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Ninoshka Perez: Not quite right versions of it have led me into this one, and this one looks
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Ninoshka Perez: or the original frequency in my heart, has been
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Ninoshka Perez: amplified and refined through the process of creation, and it felt icky, and it felt like I was forcing, and it felt like I was pulling. But
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Ninoshka Perez: that itself was part of the process and part of the refinement of my lens for it to come out and form more aligned to the frequency that was meant to come through, and I think sometimes source gives us
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Ninoshka Perez: a taste of frequency, and allows us to take off with the taste
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Ninoshka Perez: the frequency, without it being the fullness of what it's supposed to be like. A lot of times we we want the full download. I want the full course yesterday.
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Ninoshka Perez: and part of creating the full course is going through the process of the creation going through the the struggle of do I want this part added, oh, I have this part, but it's too much information. And now I need to condense it. And where will it feed who it's meant to feed the most.
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Ninoshka Perez: because maybe I need all of it in order to refine how I'm
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Ninoshka Perez: presenting it. But does the other person need everything that came with it? Maybe not.
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Ninoshka Perez: And I think we get to trust
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Ninoshka Perez: and who gets to receive those?
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Ninoshka Perez: The package right, the
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Ninoshka Perez: the neatly wrapped with the bow. So yeah, that's what was coming up for me
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Ninoshka Perez: without getting more verbose.
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Ninoshka Perez: Jenna.
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Jenna Greengold: I like that. And I think that a lot of that is just the
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Jenna Greengold: also, the the attunement, right? The attunement to the creation is how you attune to that service and that desire
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Jenna Greengold: and the thread that you decide to pull on through. Quote unquote time
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Jenna Greengold: like how you're attuning to it at any given moment.
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Jenna Greengold: and then that's how you are going to receive it with how your frequency is matching it.
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Jenna Greengold: and it's how it's either meant or not meant to be received in that moment.
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Jenna Greengold: and as you attune more to it, you're you hold more, you receive more.
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Jenna Greengold: and you serve differently. You express differently.
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Jenna Greengold: and it's just a matter of how how you're attuning in in any given moment.
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Laura Mazzotta: And having grace with ourselves in the process of that continual attunement.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right? Because we are, we're always continuing to be attuned to this. It's a gradual attunement process sometimes with that tasting that Nina was talking about right?
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Laura Mazzotta: we do get to trust that what is coming through our filter, and what is kind of left on that lens is for us to see at that moment, and that we're not meant to rush ahead. We're meant to be in space and in presence with
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Laura Mazzotta: what?
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Laura Mazzotta: What that tastes like like. Let yourself deeply immerse in just that little nugget.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right? And and it's also, I think, a
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Laura Mazzotta: an invitation. And this depends on the creation right, like some were meant to be invited into deeper receipt of deeper saturation, you know, just like you were saying Nino about, you know. Sometimes we're meant to take all of it, and sometimes we're not. And so it's like, at what depth am. I meant to receive this as well, and that's when we're in that attunement.
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Laura Mazzotta: Then then we know that we know that. And I think that that's also the grace that comes in
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Laura Mazzotta: within our delivery of what's coming through, because
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Laura Mazzotta: sometimes that delivery doesn't feel like what we desire or what we think we desire to be, it might feel too soft, it might feel too harsh. It might feel, too, you know, flighty, but but recognizing that there is a reason, the energy is coming through in the form of sensation it is, and that duly serves us. And whatever's being created, or whoever is part of that with us?
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Laura Mazzotta: Does that make sense.
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Jenna Greengold: And I think that's where you get into co-creation. Right?
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Jenna Greengold: Is the the invitation into your attunement, how you're receiving it, and then how that expresses through you in
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Jenna Greengold: conversation or in communion with another person who is also attuning themselves.
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Laura Mazzotta: And for me it's just a thank you for my refinement.
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Laura Mazzotta: Thank you for my refinement. Thank you for continuing to refine me, for
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Laura Mazzotta: because they can be micro shifts right? It doesn't have to be this big thing. But I think that it's a recognition as much as we've talked about what we're creating today. There's also the refinement of yourself as the container as the filter.
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Laura Mazzotta: and and being grateful for
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Laura Mazzotta: wherever we're being invited to refine that we are a creation, that we are an unfolding creation
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Laura Mazzotta: as well, and to recognize that what's being delivered through us is also providing a refinement of ourselves as a container.
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Laura Mazzotta: So, Nino, do you have any last thoughts before we close this one up.
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Ninoshka Perez: Yeah. The last thing on the heels of what you're saying was, creation is transformative.
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Ninoshka Perez: The process itself, it transforms us, it refines us at the same time that the form
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Ninoshka Perez: and the conversations, and the frequency. When we walk around the world after and during that creation space
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Ninoshka Perez: it it totally shifts
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Ninoshka Perez: more than me and you. It shifts the entire world right? And it gets to be simple
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Ninoshka Perez: acceptance and decision to be moved by the process of creation.
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Jenna Greengold: Yeah. And what I got from what you said, Laura was also like what came in then I was like, Oh, is that when you said that we are the creation, too. Right
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Jenna Greengold: is that God is attuning to us just as much as we are to to it.
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Jenna Greengold: And I was like, Oh, yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, that feels really, really good. And that's the co-creative piece. Because I think when we think of co-creation, it's like, Okay, well, I'm going to meet what comes through. And we've talked a lot about what comes through us. But it's also recognizing that this is mutual. This is an exchange
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Laura Mazzotta: right, and that we, our decisions. Our expression is also imprinting onto consciousness as well, which is a receipt by source
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Laura Mazzotta: and a reflection of source as well. So this is really beautiful, and I'm excited for our next episode. Thank you to everyone who has joined us today. And let us know if you have any questions or
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Laura Mazzotta: reflections that come up for you in the comments, and we will see you very soon bye, for now.