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Laura Mazzotta: Welcome to episode 5 of the freedom frequency. Today we are going to talk about
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Laura Mazzotta: the freedom of keeping an open heart, because and when I say open heart, I mean.
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Laura Mazzotta: like a softened heart, not just for yourself, but for what's arriving through spirit through the universe, what's arriving in relationships
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Laura Mazzotta: and recognizing that when we keep an open and soft heart, that is the foundation and the fertile ground for welcoming
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Laura Mazzotta: this free lifestyle that we desire, like more of these opportunities that are just so aligned with
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Laura Mazzotta: the the essence of who we are, and that, like tender sensation of this is what I love like this is what feels so juicy and rich right? But we close ourselves off so much. I do it myself. Right like this is something. This is an intention that I set for myself consistently
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Laura Mazzotta: because of situations that happen in relationships, situations in the political climate, situations in the physical planet that are happening, that are traumatic, catastrophic, upsetting, right? And it's
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Laura Mazzotta: it's understandable that our hearts would feel like, Oh, right ow! Or they're mad, or you know you have all these feelings running through you, and
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Laura Mazzotta: it can feel overwhelming at time. It can at times it can feel so big to the point that we can feel helpless or or not heard. And so we then
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Laura Mazzotta: start to stifle
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Laura Mazzotta: right. We start to stifle ourselves a little bit, even to ourselves, and there's something to be said about just being we talked about that in our last episode there's something to be said about that
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Laura Mazzotta: and and also to do like being with the feelings that are coming up right, and being with what's coming forward at the same time that we don't cross over that fine line of shutting down
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Laura Mazzotta: and shutting out
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Laura Mazzotta: and not allowing more in, I think, temporarily sometimes. Yeah, be with your own field and just be. But also we can get into a narrative
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Laura Mazzotta: and a pattern within our own heads, or our own nervous systems that
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Laura Mazzotta: that close us off. And then we're actually not
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Laura Mazzotta: choosing the freedom. We say we want.
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Ana Jones: As you were speaking, I thought about this quote by Byron, Katie the the you know
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Ana Jones: there's you business, and then there's God business.
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Ana Jones: and God's business is none of your business.
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Ana Jones: So I think when we talk about things that are completely out of our
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Ana Jones: control. Well, nothing really is a lot of times. But I want to say, like major things more like you were saying just political stuff. And you know, worldly stuff that really is.
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Ana Jones: if if we are devoting so much time to that, then we're really.
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Ana Jones: I want to say sabotaging, because that sounds like sublet. But we're really taking the energy that we have for our own creations.
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Laura Mazzotta: Hmm.
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Ana Jones: And it's leaking into somewhere else. And we're subconsciously doing this
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Ana Jones: on purpose, because there is always we. We have this
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Ana Jones: believe, the majority of us that if we shine bright, then we're going to be outcasts.
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Ana Jones: and so we prefer to say, oh, I you know I just haven't had time with everything that's going on, you know. Meditate. I don't have time relaxing. I don't have time. I don't have time to do all the things that are, you know, beneficial for me, but I do have time for all the things that are, you know, making me
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Ana Jones: feel more anxiety, making me experience more stress. So I think that it really does come down to us choosing
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Ana Jones: and cutting the bullshit, and just really being honest with ourselves. Like, yeah, that's a distraction.
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Laura Mazzotta: It is a distraction, and people love latching onto it. And it's it's very similar to caring for the caretaker right like, if you have somebody in your family that's really, really ill.
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Laura Mazzotta: and you're taking care of them, and you are constantly neglecting yourself because you're just taking care of them. You are going to get depleted, you need to fortify the caretaker so that you can be
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Laura Mazzotta: the strongest force, the brightest force, to assist in this person's healing and their comfort and their expansion, whatever is meant for them, right to hold that space. And in a similar way we also desire to care for this planet. We desire to care for our society. We desire to care for our sisters and brothers in this world. Right? And so it's the same mentality of cultivating the our own
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Laura Mazzotta: soil, our own foundation, so that we can extend like you said that creation that's coming through us. And I think that I see this a lot, especially people in the spiritual community. It's like, well, if I'm a spiritual person, then I am supposed to be involved in this and be involved in that and be involved in that. And it's just so interesting because it's like there are going to be some events that happen in the world that you are going to be drawn to doing more tangible things with.
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Laura Mazzotta: And there's going to be some that you are not. And that doesn't mean you're a bad person, because there's going to be other people that are drawn to the things you're not, and vice versa, right? Like it's. That is why we are all here uniquely on this planet to contribute our gifts and to feel the freedom of saying, I am drawn to do all of these healings for the fires in California.
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Laura Mazzotta: Great. Okay, I'm not. I have the freedom to say I'm not drawn to send a bunch of healing to say, maybe an earthquake in Vanuatu that I did, you know, like, and that doesn't mean that I'm a bad person, that I don't have a heart, and that I don't care about that. But I'm listening to the assignment that's being moved through me, and where my energy keeps pulling me like with the California fires. It was just
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Laura Mazzotta: it was like I was crying about like it was so so tangible within my field. I didn't know why that one felt like I was drawn so much more into service versus things that have happened in Gaza, where I was involved, just guided, to be involved in different ways.
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Laura Mazzotta: to use my voice in different ways there. And so it's it's not apologizing for where you're not being invited to
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Laura Mazzotta: to extend your heart in a tangible way. It's knowing that your heart is still soft, your heart is still loving, and that you're serving as your guided.
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Ana Jones: And I mean, don't even get me started with, like the whole, like good and bad separation that we're still trying to do. It's like.
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Ana Jones: I feel like we're constantly getting in other people's lanes.
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Ana Jones: And that is just like it's a distraction it really is. It's like it really bugs me to see
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Ana Jones: all of these people that are just pointing fingers of like, oh, this person deserves this, or why aren't you doing that? I'm like what the fuck is going on like, when did we become? Each other's like scorekeepers of like? Oh, you're participating in this. It's like everybody gets to use the resources in whatever ways
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Ana Jones: they want, and nobody has to make anything public. Nobody has to tell. You know, just because you're a I don't know at a certain level in life, or if you have something on social media, you don't really have to share any of your shit with anyone out there like your stuff is your stuff right like what? Who you donate and what you donate to, and who you're helping and who you're not helping. It's like.
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Ana Jones: I don't know, like there are some stuff that I do pro bono, and I don't have to share about it.
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Ana Jones: You know. I don't have to tell everyone when I'm working with someone who can't afford me, but is the most committed person I've ever seen, and I want to work with them in them in some shape or form, and like we just figured out a way to make things happen like, I'm just giving you one example that I've done in the past right, because it's like we don't owe shit to anyone. And we're still
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Ana Jones: like in this stupid like.
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Ana Jones: just I don't know what it is. It's just like it feels like a game it feels like are like, really, we're still here, like, we're still like
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Ana Jones: trying to project the story of like, I need to hold this person accountable. It's like we don't
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Ana Jones: like, we don't. We need to start minding more of our own business, respect other people except have compassion and fucking live our best lives like, I just feel like we get so caught up in in the bullshit because it's distracting.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, it's true. And and placing those expectations onto other people because it's an area that you've
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Laura Mazzotta: that you need to fixate, that you need to attach to for whatever reason. And that's okay. You're allowed right? You're allowed. But but yeah, we do get so distracted. And I like that. You brought up that point, too, about the freedom of
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Laura Mazzotta: sharing what you desire to share. And that's something that is so distorted with the Internet and social media, and even watching the news. Everybody's business, everything being shared. And it's like I don't watch the news. I don't watch the news, and I haven't my entire life for the most part, I mean, I went through a very short period because I felt like I should, because I wasn't. I felt like I wasn't being a responsible citizen if I did not. But it's like Dude I no, no, because
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Laura Mazzotta: everything is human experience and human reflection right? And it's like, I know what's going on in the world. I know enough about what's going on in the world, right? And
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Laura Mazzotta: I choose to consume and engage and share how I'm feeling that day. It may be different than the day before. There's a lot of people out there who are wildly successful and happy in their lives who don't share shit, and there's some at the same level who share every fucking detail. So there's a whole spectrum. And I think that it's it's you being able to feel into what allows you to feel
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Laura Mazzotta: sacred within your own energy and like you're deeply honoring yourself
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Laura Mazzotta: at the same time that you're in service.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, yeah, I I tell this to my clients all the time. I'm like, when you come down
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Ana Jones: to when you make peace with the reality that you know exactly who you are in terms of your integrity, because we are always evolving.
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Laura Mazzotta: Like.
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Ana Jones: There is absolutely nothing that you can say, do, or be even
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Ana Jones: that. If somebody comes back and tells you like you're a fucking piece of shit, or you did this, or like an insult, a projection, you can be like.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, that's not true.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah.
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Ana Jones: They know who I am.
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Ana Jones: because I know where I want to be of service, because I know where I meant to be of service, because I know I know.
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Ana Jones: I know, and I don't need other people to come and tell me, because
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Ana Jones: what? For whatever reason, they felt called to project some something onto me. It's like, Okay, cool. And now that doesn't mean that insults don't make us feel anything right. We may feel something. And then we move through that emotion, but I don't let it impact my life. I don't let it impact my, the inner structure that I created for myself. For
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Ana Jones: decades.
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Ana Jones: I don't let that pillar crumble because somebody had a bad day and feels like
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Ana Jones: they need to troll me.
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Ana Jones: It's it's much harder to knock me down.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yes.
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Ana Jones: Was before, you know.
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Laura Mazzotta: That that on.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: That unwavering center.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's that's so similar to what we were talking about last episode, around being in presence with yourself, and I love that you talked about. I love that you brought up integrity
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Laura Mazzotta: because that is such a beautiful concept that I worked with years ago, feeling like this.
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Laura Mazzotta: I was in this doubting space around.
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Laura Mazzotta: am I? Do I have integrity right? Am I being right by this person? Am I being right in this situation. Am I being right by that person? There's this, and really what that all was was accommodation and people pleasing energy. That's really what that was
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Laura Mazzotta: right, because at the end of the day what I came to which I had to repeat over and over to myself over the course of probably a few weeks, so that I really anchored. This is true, but it was this recognition, like.
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Laura Mazzotta: Okay, so if I don't have to choose to be in integrity to all of these other people and systems and
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Laura Mazzotta: structures more than I'm in integrity to my own soul, more than I'm in integrity to my own center. And that's what you're talking about. Here, right? Is this like, it's like, Yeah, that doesn't when they give you something. When somebody says something to you. It's like, Yeah, that that's not a match. I know that that's not a match to to what I am. So okay, like, you can say whatever you desire to say. But it's
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Laura Mazzotta: that's when people say they clear energy. I'm like, Yeah, I can understand why, in a situation like that, you would want to clear energy. And I'm not saying that that doesn't feel good, and it's not helpful. But ultimately energy doesn't even need to be cleared. The more unwavering you become because it just bounces off.
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Laura Mazzotta: it just bounces off. And it's just like, Yeah, that's not a match. So I'm not even gonna entertain it right. But I love this integrity conversation, because it's
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Laura Mazzotta: it's really inviting you who's listening into
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Laura Mazzotta: choosing integrity to your own path and to your own soul's purpose and invitation over anything else. That's the brave path that's it can feel scary because it can be unconventional and not a pathway that's been carved already. But it's like. I'm going to choose integrity to me, not because I'm a selfish bitch, but because, as I do that I shine brighter.
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Laura Mazzotta: and other people do. I mean I see it. It's a freaking ripple effect. It's a ripple effect, as the more the more I claim my own unwavering sovereignty and center the opening of my children. The opening and transformation of the people in my life is automatic, quick, and palpable. It's wild.
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Laura Mazzotta: That's evidence. When we're looking for evidence that this stuff works right.
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Ana Jones: 100%.
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Ana Jones: And I think also as mothers, I do feel like mothers
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Ana Jones: when in when presence in in the household. They really are the pillars.
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Ana Jones: There's just something about women. There's just something about us that makes us really like we. We have a lot of impact.
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Laura Mazzotta: Hmm.
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Ana Jones: You know, like the woman I feel like. And you know, there's certain spiritual like perspectives that talk about how the woman is like the guiding force of the family. So when the woman softens, when the woman has a regulated nervous system, when the woman just like is like
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Ana Jones: asking in her. You know. Womanness, we'll call it that. It's just like everything flows. Everything is in harmony, because it's almost like she realizes that she
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Ana Jones: that because she is nature.
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Ana Jones: She can start.
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Laura Mazzotta: Moving.
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Ana Jones: She can start, you know, just like flowing in and out. And so I think that that is really something just really, really beautiful that we can share to. I don't have any kids, but I know that like for my nephews, I do that right, like
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Ana Jones: all about this, like
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Ana Jones: I'm not going to fuck with you. I love you and like this is important to me because they learn from example. Right? They're always learning the way kids are. It's like they have learned how to be and how to navigate life through looking at parents, through looking at people, through looking at teachers. So I think this is really really beautiful, because it brings us back to like the piece of responsibility
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Ana Jones: and.
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Laura Mazzotta: Oh!
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Ana Jones: For other people's judgments of us. We're not responsible for other people's projections or stories about us, because I love this quote by Max strong, he says.
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Ana Jones: if the person who you think you are, the person who others think you are, and the person who you really are would bump into each other, they would never recognize themselves.
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Ana Jones: So it's like we are on this quest of, you know, bumping into our essence.
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Ana Jones: And if we keep bringing all of these external elements that we don't really need. It's it really is just like it's in the way.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah.
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Ana Jones: In the way.
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Laura Mazzotta: I really love that. And I really appreciate you bringing forward this in the context of family life as well. Right? Because we talked about like the wider scheme of things. But I think it's so important, because that's that's the microcosm, right? And that's what people are living and touching every day, too, and this concept of keeping an open heart. And you're talking about the softening of the mother. Right?
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Laura Mazzotta: Is is so important is so important because it just it. It brings up so many fields for me, Anna.
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Laura Mazzotta: It brings up so many fields because it's it's this sensation of
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Laura Mazzotta: where I in the past have really resisted the responsibility of
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Laura Mazzotta: being that energetic influence in the family, you know. I wonder if that's where that happy wife, happy, happy life.
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Laura Mazzotta: saying came from right like, if she's having just a little joke as an aside, but but kind of like just bringing back to that vibe of what you were saying. That kind of captures it in a way where it's like.
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Laura Mazzotta: you know, I've had conversations with my husband about how he's really this, like practical center of the family, right? Like he's he's more of the practical center, and I am absolutely the energetic guide. You know he is the practical guide in many senses of the word, and and I am the energetic guide, and
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Laura Mazzotta: and I think that there was a responsibility that came with that that scared me for a long time, and I think that was because of my own history, and because of times that I didn't feel
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Laura Mazzotta: safe to have an open heart or a soft heart, or I I didn't really. This comes down to self-trust right like not trusting myself to to hold myself to be to be my own safekeeper.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, my own advocate, whatever. And so I think that that's a really beautiful
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Laura Mazzotta: example to bring this same concept forward when we talk about advocacy on a greater on a greater scale. Right? It's like it's it's really being able to to be with your own heart and
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Laura Mazzotta: honoring its messages, soothing its wounds, and and
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Laura Mazzotta: when it knows that it can be safe with you in an unwavering way.
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Ana Jones: Those distractions.
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Laura Mazzotta: They just don't feel relevant.
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Ana Jones: Yeah.
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Laura Mazzotta: You're like, I feel complete.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, yeah, it's the the the knowing and the realization that life wants to
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Ana Jones: co-create with you. But if you're not open to it, if you're not willing to it, then it's not going to come in, but it wants to tether with you.
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Laura Mazzotta: Exist.
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Ana Jones: Life wants to have that intimacy with you. As we mentioned before.
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Laura Mazzotta: And.
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Ana Jones: I want to say this piece because I think that this was something super important for me to get. And
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Ana Jones: my mom, who's a therapist was also talking about this with me a few days ago, and she was like Anna. I think that what has been happening
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Ana Jones: in terms of heterosexual relationships. She's like the woman wants the man to be like. She is.
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Ana Jones: Woman wants like, oh, we feel right like women we feel, and that is our thing. That is our jam. It's like the way that we feel, and the way that we move through emotions and things, and that and we are much more attuned. We are much more sensitive to certain things.
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Laura Mazzotta: And so when.
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Ana Jones: We start crying, panicking, experiencing whatever sensation. And we don't see that the man is feeling that, too. It's almost like our brain goes like, what's going to happen when this, this, this, this, this, this is he going to be able to be there for me in this way? Or is he going to run or like biology? You know this, the primal brain kicks in, and it's just like, Am I safe? Here? Am I? This am I that. And it's really
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Ana Jones: learning to understand that everybody processes things differently.
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Ana Jones: Right? It's like somebody died. I'm crying. I'm sobbing. The other person is laughing.
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Laura Mazzotta: Right, yeah.
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Ana Jones: It's the emotion being released.
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Ana Jones: And so, instead of judging like, Oh, this is wrong, you should be doing that. It's just like.
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Ana Jones: And we have this acceptance, that no matter what what gender you are, you are in the energy
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Ana Jones: of something, in a relationship.
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Ana Jones: right? One is the space holder, and the other one is the flow is the Creator. Because when there is steadiness, when there is something that holds you and is firm, it's like, then creation can happen when everything is wobbly.
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Ana Jones: It's like, Oh, my gosh! Chaos! Chaos, chaos when there is like, only.
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Ana Jones: you know, like the rock, the holding it's like, well, then, there's nothing that is going to be created.
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Ana Jones: So I think this this is also just bringing into piece of like acceptance of what is on
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Ana Jones: on both sides, right? That just because I'm in the field
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Ana Jones: doesn't mean that the other person has to respond in the way that I'm responding and just having that
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Ana Jones: respecting and accepting the freedom of expression that we both have
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Ana Jones: of whatever it is that we're experiencing in that moment.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah, I agree with you. And I feel that what comes in that I just wanna offer people
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Laura Mazzotta: who are listening today is that
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Laura Mazzotta: forgiveness is an important part of this process to forgiveness of yourself, forgiveness of other people. Because.
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Laura Mazzotta: you know, as you're saying this, too, it just makes me think of
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Laura Mazzotta: the areas that I've forgiven myself because I was such a people pleaser. And I was such an accommodator, right that. And I didn't, you know, even though I had the holding container of my husband from the get go. I didn't have it within myself, and so I kind of piggybacked on his, and I was
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Laura Mazzotta: so I admire him so much that I was
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Laura Mazzotta: kind of taking on some of those qualities right rather than honoring the
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Laura Mazzotta: the reverence and the vitality of my own softness, and how vital that was as a role right? And so I think that as I came into my own, and as I strengthened that within myself, and got to know my own energy, and came into appreciation and presence, and deliciousness and desire of my own energy, you know. It then offered me more freedom to create
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Laura Mazzotta: with this holding container that just assisted and tethered me even further to create even wider but it was almost like I was chasing
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Laura Mazzotta: didn't know I was to figure out who I was for a while. Does that make sense? So I think that that's what came up as you were talking, and I just think it's important whether you resonate with that example or not, to
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Laura Mazzotta: to just be in a space of forgiveness with yourself for areas that your heart has shut down, or areas that you have not been in this acceptance, that Anna was talking about and just decide. Wow! Like my eyes are opened to this now. And
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Laura Mazzotta: and I get to, I get to choose different. I get to feel my way through this, and with with a new perspective.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, and with lots of grace.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah.
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Ana Jones: Lots of grades. Because I mean, this is this is what the human experience is, right. It's just
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Ana Jones: moving through life. And even though you hear certain words.
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Ana Jones: even though you're like, oh, yes, this concept. But there's a part. There's a part of you that can't really fully grasp it, or maybe none of you can grasp it, because it's just not time.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yeah.
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Ana Jones: You know you don't have enough experience, enough knowledge of life for that piece of wisdom to click into you and for you to accept it as part of your reality and realize you got to go through what you got to go through. So if you're not even here, if you're if you're like. I cannot relate to any of this. It's kind of like to store. If you find this valuable store it in the background.
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Ana Jones: and then your brain will find it once it's relevant. And once you're like, Oh, I get it. Now
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Ana Jones: I know what they're talking about.
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Laura Mazzotta: I have to close this with a perfect example to what you just shared, which was from a a oracle card that I pulled for the full moon ceremony that I did yesterday or the day before, whenever I did it. And
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Laura Mazzotta: it was talking exactly about this. It was this card saying almost there, and it was a picture of like a fox next to a river.
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Laura Mazzotta: And it was talking about how this fox was just like
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Laura Mazzotta: so drawn to this light right so drawn to this, and kept chasing it, chasing it, chasing it, and
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Laura Mazzotta: but every single time that it would chase it the light would go over the river, and then he'd be like, well, I can't go over the river like, because in the in the autumn it was so choppy, and he was like, Oh, I can't do this right. And in the. And actually, we're going to go backwards. We're going to start with the spring in the spring it was starting to like. The waves were really upswelling right, and in the summer it was moving so fast, and in the fall
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Laura Mazzotta: it was starting to calm, but it was freezing, and he was just like, How am I supposed to cross this river like I want to get to my light, and finally he just got so frustrated he laid down on the bank of the river. He was like, I am done like come autumn. He's like I am done. I'm not doing this. And then he woke up.
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Laura Mazzotta: and all these snowflakes were falling, and he saw the light, and the river was frozen, and he got to cross it, and at the end of this oracle card it said, you are meant to go through your seasons before you cross into
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Laura Mazzotta: what is awaiting you. There is a reason for the seasons. Trust them that it's always going to come around to you. It is always going to arrive, we promise right, like trust, that your light is always guiding you. And so I just thought that was a beautiful example of what you were just talking about. Exactly.
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Ana Jones: Yeah, I love that. That is a beautiful close. It's just like we it. It's like.
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Ana Jones: you know, there, there is a season, and there is a phase for everything, you know. When you're 5 years old you can't wait to watch. Pg, 13 movies. It's like you're going to get there, you know, like.
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Laura Mazzotta: Yes.
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Ana Jones: Gonna come. The time is gonna come like everything is coming. It's like, enjoy it because
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Ana Jones: it'll it'll it'll be here before you know it.
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Laura Mazzotta: That is the infinite plight of being, human impatience just being.
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Ana Jones: Cricket.
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Laura Mazzotta: M.
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Laura Mazzotta: Impatient. We could talk about that another day. Okay, thank you. Everybody for being here. Thank you, Anna. This is beautiful, and gave me all the feels, and we will see you on our next episode, bye, for now.
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Ana Jones: Bye.
